Tom Hiddleston and Lily James Talk Justice for Pamela Anderson and Why Loki Works so Well on TV
By
Daniel D'Addario
Photographs by Alexi Lubomirski
For “Downton Abbey” alum Lily James, 2022 has been a year of glamour and drama. She took on the role of Pamela Anderson in Hulu’s “Pam & Tommy,” which looked sympathetically at Anderson’s attempt to be taken seriously. Tom Hiddleston’s work is similarly multifaceted in “Loki,” where he plays Marvel’s trickster god, who’s gone from “Avengers” villain to lead of his own Disney+ series; Hiddleston also stars in Apple TV+ historical drama “The Essex Serpent.”
TOM HIDDLESTON: I thought your work was extraordinary. Taking on a real person feels like an enormous responsibility.
LILY JAMES: It’s terrifying, isn’t it?
HIDDLESTON: You want to honor and respect and —
JAMES: I felt like if I came at it with heart, and a total desire to be honest, that was all I could do. I don’t know if I’d do it again anytime soon. I felt that desire to do her justice.
JAMES: I just had pictures of Pamela everywhere. And then I had these prosthetic boobs and forehead. It took four hours every day. And during that time, I had a montage of her interviews from the ’90s, and I would learn it like a song. The pitch and the rhythm. She speaks really, really fast. I stayed in her the whole time.
HIDDLESTON: People on the crew, did they ever get to know Lily James?
JAMES: I don’t think so. Nor Sebastian Stan. We really didn’t get to know each other till we started doing press. And the days were so long, 18 hours or so. I find that the Americans are worse with long days than us. I found that so hard. How has that been with you and “Loki”? It was probably long days, getting into him.
HIDDLESTON: Loki’s changed so much over the years for me. I was cast when I was 29, and I’m 41.
JAMES: Credit to you for having let him emerge and grow and shift.
HIDDLESTON: Initially, with the wigs and the costume, I was always trying to break out of the mask. Let something honest come through. By the time we got to the series, Loki’s stripped of all the things that are familiar. Immediately, he’s literally stripped and put in a jumpsuit, and his status is gone. Everyone knows who the character is now. Let’s open him up and find new aspects of him and challenge the character to change and grow.
JAMES: I was reading, which is so exciting, that Loki is the first queer Marvel character.
HIDDLESTON: In the MCU. Back from my early days of researching the character in myths, the identity of Loki was fluid in every aspect. In gender, in sexuality. It’s an ancient part of the character, and it hadn’t emerged in the stories we’ve told. It’s a small step. There’s so much more to do. But the Marvel Cinematic Universe has to reflect the world we live in. Extraordinary character, in a way, to contain so much.
JAMES: I got to watch “The Essex Serpent.” I want to know about that first meeting with Claire Danes.